Forum: Automobile E10 Problems/Issues ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5613565 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:50:55 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5613552 ARTICLE: "Study: E15ethanol damages boat engines- Ethanol supporters contend that research isn'tfair"

From: The Argus Leader,November 2^nd, 2011

Excerpts: "A blend of15 percent ethanol and gasoline caused so much damage to boat engines during agovernment-funded study that the testing of two of three motor types endedearly.

Theethanol made the engines run hotter, and a rod bearing broke, destroying a200-horsepower engine that was being tested, lawmakers were told Wednesday.Testing of a 300-horsepower version had to be shut down early when its valvescracked or broke. A third, smaller engine finished the test but also had problems... "We’re spendingmoney to test a fuel they (boat owners) can’t use. It’s just maddening,” saidRon Lamberty, senior vice president of the American Coalition forEthanol."

Fuel-TestersComments: Since we know many stations have been selling over-blended E10 fuelfor years (based on testing results) all this study reinforces is that boatengines (and others) require availability of ethanol-free fuel.

Forum: Boat E10 Problems/Issues ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5613552 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:43:24 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5613522 Ethanol company Corn Plus fined $760,000

CornPlus, a farmer-owned Cooperative that operates an ethanol production facilitylocated in Winnebago, Minnesota, was recently charged with one count of makingfalse statements to the United States Environmental Protection Agency inviolation of the federal Clean Air Act. Details, read at http://www.startribune.com/business/134398903.html November 23,2011.

Forum: Minnesota ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5613522 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:28:45 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5613514 Ethanol plant hitwith $700,000 in penalties over alleged air violations

In Wisconsin,Beaver Dam-based United Ethanol must pay a $700,000 fine to settle a complaintby the Wisconsin Justice Department that over several years the company'sethanol plant in Milton committed 15 different air pollution violations.

Forum: Wisconsin ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5613514 Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:25:53 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5599932 High Ethanol (Marine E15) Fuel Endurance Study: June 2011 - Report October 2011 - By NREL and Mercury Marine- See report summary in next post.

Forum: Boat E10 Problems/Issues ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5599932 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:29:53 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5588045 The info below is completely un-edited and copied from one section of the Fuel Choice Petition responses...Each line was completed/written by an individual petitioner...

The comments copied below are just a sample of responses we have received.

I will be summarizing all data included in our petitions after 2012, but thought in the meantime this FYI may help others who also own these specific engines...

Note: We never share names,addresses or personal information. 

If you have not yet signed our "Ethanol-Free Fuel Choice Petition", visit:

http://www.fueltestkit.com/fuel_choice_petition_2011.html

Question stated,

"I own or use engine(s) that require and/or perform best onNON-alcohol fuel types, including: (Include engine year, type, model and manufacturer gas recommendations, if applicable)"

RESULTS:

"2 Evinrudes, 2 lawnmowers, 1 leaf blower, 2 Chainsaws, 2generators...;

1997 Honda gas car engine;
2000 Pontiac gas car engine;
2009 lawn mower gas engine;

2011 bayliner with mercury 3.0L engine (boat)also lawnmowersand old motorcycles (mid 70s);

Ariens lawn mower;

1995 Chev Suburban;
2005 Cadillac, owners' manual says "do not use ethenol";

1995 Mitsubishi 6G72 naturally aspirated, v6 dohc; factoryservice manual warns that although e10 can be used, it will degrade performanceand increase maintenance requirements for the engine, fuel, andemissions/exhaust systems;

all of my cars and equipment;

Reg. gas lawn mower(purch.'08#,2002 Nissan Maxima #reg. fuelonly#,2005 Ford Mustang GT #reg. fuel only);

1999 Mercury Optimax which is being damaged by the ethanol.Manufacture recommends non-ethanol gas;

Evenrude 90 Hp Marine Engine;

Evenrude 90 Hp Marine Engine;

1979 Pontiac Trans-Am, 1993 GMC Sierra, 2004 and 2006 ATV's,2006 Gravely Mower, 2003 Generator;

2010 Nissan Maxima, 2009 Hyundai;

1990 to 2006 kholer, b&s mowers and generators. Gasaholnot recommended;

2004 Nissan 350z;
2005 Honda CBR1000RR;

1971 Honda SL350 Premium Fuel Only;
1972 Honda SL350 Premium Fuel Only;

2011 Toyota Prius;

2006 Yamaha 600cc carbuerated. 87 octane;
2000 Ford 2.5 fuel injected. 87 octane;

2006 Suzuki Katana, does NOT recommend ethanol, and does NOTrun good on it at all. Has an inline 4 air cooled 4 stroke 600cc engine;

several small engines- chain saw, tillers, outboards;

1999 MERCURY BASSTRACKER BOAT 40 HORSE PWR NON ETHANOL;

Onan 6500 Power generator;

mitsubishi mirage 2000 - cheverolet impala 2001;

lawn mowers, generators, light sport aircraft!;

1997 Honda GL1500Se Motorcycle;

912 Rotax 2007 airplane 93 oct;

1983 Olds Tornado & 1990 Toyota Corolla;

1955 Chevrolet Bel-Air sedan;
1956 Ford 600 tractor;
1995 Honda CB750 motorcycle;
2002 Snapper lawnmower w/ Briggs & Stratton 14HP engine;

Classic Vehicles;

tractor, 2 lawn mowers, 2 chain saws, 1 trimmer;

1987 and 1988 Mercedes-Benz type M116 engines;

2003 Suzuki recommends no ethanol;
2007 Porsche recommends no ethanol;
expensive lawn equipment;

1998 BMW Z3, 1998 Suzuki DL650, 1998 Triumph Rocket III;

2001 Lexus ES300;

Ethanol Free Gas for all luxury sedans. I have paid forengine repairs because ethanol has created problem with my engine;

All of my vehicles, including seven snowmobiles between theyears 1979-1983, 1991 kawasaki motorcycle, 1986 kawasaki motorcycle, and myeveryday truck;

1974 Cessna 172 (Airplane), 2009 Yamaha AR230HO (Boat), 2008BMW M3, 2011 BMW X5,

Boat Motor, and yard equipment;

2003 Nissan sentra states in manual that oxygenated blandswith more than 10% ETHANOL ARE NOT TO BE USED AND EVEN 10% BLEND IS NOTRECOMMENDED IF YOU CAN GET NON-ETHANOL GAS SINCE THE ENGINE, IT'S PARTS, ANDFUEL LINES ARE NOT ENGINEERED TO WITHSTAND OXYGENATED GAS BLENDS (LIKE ETHANOL ANDMETHANOL BLENDS). FURTHERMORE, THE MANUAL STATES CERTAIN PROBLEMS THAT CANOCCUR FROM USING ETHANOL BLENDS AND IN FACT MY ENGINE IS SUFFERING THESEPROBLEMS (stalling and hard to start when engine is at normal operatingtemperature). The manual urges that if these problems happen one should stopusing the ethanol or methanol blend immediately, but unfortunately I do nothave that liberty since all stations in my area and in all areas I travelthrough only sell ethanol gasoline blends;

1961 ford starliner - 1975 glastron boat - sears gardentractor - chain saw - weed eater;

2004 Chevy Express 3500 6.0 liter;

2008, Baja SC150;

Applies to ALL VEHICLES PAST AND CURRENT;

marine engines all years;

Honda 4 stroke outboard, Stihl Chain Saw, 350 Chevy Marineengine, 92 Ford Pickup truck with only 70,000 miles,86 Chevy motor home withonly 38000 miles. 1979 115 and 8 HP Mercury outboards on my river boat; JohnDeere Mower;

2011 Ford F150 Ecoboost;

2008 GMC Yukon XL - has problems with ethanol gas;

BMW motorcycle;

1990 nissan 300zx needs 93 octane. my lawn mowers my chainsaws. my 1985 Yamaha 700 virago motorcycle runs like crap now. my ford 1993ranger truck gets less mileage;

2009 Evinrude outboard E-Tec;

2003 Mercedes SLK 320, V6;

I have several 1960-1970 engines and went to purchase a newmower. Salesman informed me the fuel,gas has been destroying the small enginesand recommended purchasing additional insurance to cover the motor which is notcovered my manufacturer because of junk fuel,gas. What good is it?;

2010 Poulan Chain Saw; 2003 Snapper Lawn Mower;
2005 Dodge Magnum
2003 Dodge Durango

1995 Yamaha Vmax, 2008 Yamaha FJR1300, and 2006 ChevroletImpala 3.6 liter V6.

2002 toyota tundra 4.7 v8

Force marine engine 85 hp ,gas weed wacker

2004 Lexus LS430, 1993 MB 400E

Johnson 60 hp outboard

Lawn mowers, chainsaws, weedwackers, pressure washers,pre-MY2000 cars and trucks, and ag tractors.

Aircraft engine - Rotax 912ULS 100HP

1958 Corvette collector car

Numerous farm and small commercial gasoline engines, a boat,a waverunner, and a motorcycle---none of which are compatible with Ethanol.

Almost everything I own runs poorly with this Ethanol addedMotorcycles Lawn tractor lawn mower and even my pickup truck is getting worseMPG and seems like less power

Piper J3 Cub (1946 model)

Sears Craftsman 48" riding mower B&S 16 HP, Searspush mower B&S 5 HP, Start Trimmer (1970's vintage) B&S 2 HP, Mercury250 HP marine outboard, Ryobi weed trimmer, Poulan 18" chain saw;

2010 Toyota Prius 1.8L 4cyl Hybrid combined mpg 48 to 58combined. This engine isn't approved for ethanol-blends. This is the highestrated mpg car in the United States

1997 Toyota Camry LE;

2006 Yamaha F250

2002 outboard mercury recommends alcohol free

1992 and 1998 boat engines.

Lawn mowers and snowblowers also.

1992 Chevy 1500 pu 350 ci engine

2010 smart Fortwo.

1986 OMC 4.3L Recommended 87 regular unleaded.
1978 AMC 5.9L 360
1969 GM 5.7L 350

briggs & stratton

Lawnmowers,leaf blowers,weedwackers,generators,1978Camaro,1995 Mercury,1999 Olds,2000 Grand Prix

2010 Mazda3

I own several machines that have 2 cycle gasoline engines. Ihave been told, by 2 repair shops that ethanol contaminated fuel will damagethese engines!

Grubee Skyhawk GT2B 48cc

2003 Mercury Marqui, 170 hp I/O boat motor, 21hp lawntractor, 2 chain saws-1,2cyl 1,4cyl, 2hp edger, 10hp generator, 2,6 1/2hpwalk-behind lawn mowers

2005 chevy 5.3L v8
2006 subaru 2.5L
1998 subaru 2.5L

1975 Cessna, 2 each Honda Eu5500 gen sets, two boats, 4outboards, honda lawn mower, weed eater GET MY DRIFT!

Outboard motor Evinrude 75 HP
76 Olds
79 Chevy Truck

1993 mercury cougar manufacturer recommends unleaded gas 87octane

Lawn mower (Kohler), PA-28-151 Piper Warrior Aircraft (Lycoming150 HP)

Auto 72 Corvette, mercury outboards,Gas power washer

Fuels containing UP TO and including 10% ethanol or otheroxygenates with up to 2.8% oxygen by weight (that is, 15% MTBE or 3% methanolplus an equivalent amount of co-solvent) will not void the applicable enginewarranties for my vehicle. That is good news I suppose.
Field experience has indicated significant differences in fuel quality(volatility, composition, ADDITIVES, etc.) among gasolines offered for sale inthe United States. The use of poor-quality fuels results in driveability,starting and stalling problems, especially under certain environmentalconditions such as high ambient temperature and high altitude.
How do I know if the fuel I am buying is 10% Ethanol or LESS as required by myvehicle owner's manual? The fact is I don't and what is more frustrating isthat I do not have the choice to purchase a fuel that does not contain harmfulfuel alcohols. Add to that the extra cost incurred because I have to buy 98 RONfuel just to ensure I do not drop below the 95 RON requirement that my enginemanufacturer has prescribed.

I want the choice to buy 100% fuel, not 90% fuel and 10% alcohol at the 100 %fuel price.

2011 GMC TERRAIN;

1998 ford triton v-10,2000 f-150 triton v8,2001 saturn sl,lawn mowers (3), chainsaws (2)

2001 Camaro SS 2003 SeaDoo 2006 Nissan Titan;

1975 350 CID V8 classic car;
1997 3.7L Mustang V6;

2006 Cadillac STS 3.6 v-6;

1972 Cadillac convertible, 1995 Mercury Villager work Van;

Forum: E-News - FYI ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5588045 Sun, 20 Nov 2011 20:52:15 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4858730 That said, my friend checked a local station (nationwide fastfood store chain) and it came up at almost 30% Ethanol/water mixture.
I won a free 50 gallon gas card there and after the first tank I noticed my car was missing and stalling at redlights.
It took me quite a while to make the connection, and only after I replaced both temperature sensors, the fuel cap, the plugs and cleaned the idle speed control motor.
None of these fixes changed anything, but when I filled up at another station out of town and my car suddenly began running good again, I realized the problem was the gasoline.
My friend bought an Ethanol test kit and that is when we found out the 30% number.
About a month ago I filled up at another station and I didn't make it further than a few hundred yards down the 4 lane before my car started bucking badly.
I knew right away that the fuel was the culprit.
When I got (limped) home, I couldn't even get up my driveway. (big hill)
I siphoned out most of the fuel in my tank and dumped my 5 gallon can of lawn mower/ weed eater gas into my car.
This was 94 Octane which makes my mower run better and is good for 2 strokes like the weed eater.
I also dumped a pint of 99.9% Isopropyl in the tank to try and suck up any extra water and added some Marvel mystery oil for lubrication.
Bottom line, it has taken a few tanks of good gas and 6 weeks to get my car so it will idle, and it still misses and bucks a little bit. It had none of those symptoms before that fateful tank full of gas.
I was talking to the station owner and he said that they check for water every day when they "stick" the tanks.
That is when they measure how much gasoline is in each tank with a long stick calibrated in inches.
There is a cream that you put on the first foot of the stick and it turns bright red when water is present.
Problem is, now with all the Ethanol in the gasoline, water is soluble to some degree.
The station owner told me that I probably got a big slug of Ethanol/water as their tanks were almost empty that day.
They actually ran out of gas one time when I was filling up at that station.
Another thing that I didn't know, they only have 2 tanks, but 3 grades of gas.
If you purchase mid-grade gas, the pump automatically mixes regular and premium to make mid-grade gasoline.
.
From now on, I will always check out a station before I start using them on a regular basis and I think I will continue to put Marvel Mystery oil in my tank every now and then.
It lubricates the fuel pump, the injectors and the fuel pressure regulator.

As always, Buyer Beware

Forum: Ohio ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4858730 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 22:15:19 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4744302 These Locations have always sold and continue to sell ethanol-free gas, that is no ethanol in any of their gas.

Plaza Station at Forrest Oil Co.
1 Plaza Dr., US HWY 25
Travelers Rest, SC
just south of George Coleman Ford and across from Advanced Auto Parts
all three grades of gas

Bush Oil Co.
300 S. Pendleton St.
Easley, SC
2 blocks off Main St. beside Jervey Eye Group

Cokers Store
7701 Augusta Rd., US HWY 25
Piedmont, SC
in the center of MOONVILLE

Forum: South Carolina ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=4744302 Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:36:14 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5587983 Hydrotreated Naphthenic Distillate and it looks interesting.   This website is more up to date than fueltesters and is actually educational:

Forum: E10 Gas Additives ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5587983 Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:25:59 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3741974
Their owner says they will offer ethanol-free gasoline as long as it is available to them.

http://www.fordsfuelandpropane.com/

Ford's Fuel Services, Inc.

Attention: Customer Care Center

4115 Holly Street

Loris, South Carolina 29569

843-756-3918

Fords Fuel and Propane-North Myrtle Beach

1519 Old Hwy 17 North

North Myrtle Beach, South Carolina 29582

843-249-1614 or 843-249-4300

Forum: South Carolina ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3741974 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:53:47 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3497493 Have 1972 - 302 Ford motor in H.B. and haveing much Fuel problems

Forum: State-by-State Gas Station Locator - NON-ETHANOL GAS. ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3497493 Wed, 27 May 2009 18:23:27 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405138 100 Ork Rock Rd.
Winchester Bay, OR 97467
http://www.winchesterbayrvresort.com/

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Data obtained from Oregon.gov website, 4/4/2009

Forum: Oregon ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405138 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:35:22 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405137 14940 State Hwy 38
Elkton, OR 97436

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Data obtained from Oregon.gov website, 4/4/2009

Forum: Oregon ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405137 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:34:31 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405134 Noti Market
22528 Noti Loop Rd.
Noti, OR 97461

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Data obtained from Oregon.gov website, 4/4/2009

Forum: Oregon ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405134 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:33:03 GMT http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405132 Lemolo Lake Resort
2610 Birds Point Rd.
Idleyld Park, OR 97447
541-643-0750

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Data obtained from Oregon.gov website, 4/4/2009

Forum: Oregon ]]> http://fueltesters.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3405132 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 14:32:27 GMT